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John Lennon on Peace

Posted in conversation, politics by amoslanka on July 21, 2008

What an absolutely amazing video. This video not only contains a piece of major American history but its set to some of the most amazing motion design I’ve seen.

I don’t mean to directly stir up heated conversation on peace and naivete or idealism in political structure and revolution. Somehow by posting this video I have impression it may do that. Yesterday I spent the afternoon in Portland with Parker and we had one of our usual conversations about political naivete and what types of information to even allow past the boundaries of your internal “relevance filter”. Naive or not, true or not, Lennon had valid points I enjoy listening to what he has to say.

Please share what you think, both of the video itself and the content of Lennon’s ideas.

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  1. ash said, on July 22, 2008 at 11:38 am

    Well first off, the illistration is well done. I am very impressed by the intricate detail and the movement of the pictures.

    Am I to presume that the recording was found and put together by those mentioned in the credits? Do you know if the kid who recorded the intv, older now, had any part in it? I’d be interested to know.

    I do think Lenon makes a good point when he says that war brings business and jobs and in the world we live in, governments like that, b/c it makes them put on a show for the world that their economy is working…or has the appearance rather, doesn’t always work. War also can bring hunger, cause people to flee…there are thousands of displaced people in the world; it brings destruction and an end to human life.

    Of course, Christ came to bring peace to the heart of mankind rather than “world peace,” the infamous answer for every pagent beauty queen. I think until people can begin to experience peace in their own heart and mind, there seems to be little chance for “world peace.”

    Then again, where is the line b/t the “necessary evil” of war and resolving the conflict w/o violence? The former should be last resort, the just war theory set in motion by St. Augustine was right, going to war should bring justice and in a way that avoids the innocent…. I think we can all promote peace, and have hope, but I also think it must begin from the inside out…rather than the other way around. I also think we need to learn from mistakes, what wars were worth it? which ones were not? how can we learn and change now….to make a better future?

    I’m going on and on. But I also think it was comical when Lenon was asked about those who don’t like his band…and his answer, in sum, was those kids/people need to get out more and form their own opinion. Wink.

    Good stuff amos

  2. amoslanka said, on July 22, 2008 at 7:39 pm

    @ash — thanks a ton for the feedback. you’re very right about what you’ve had to say. In particular I appreciate the thoughts on the concept of “just war”. (that is, justice, not “oh well, just another war”)

    In the issue of war, there are fine lines to determine all over the place. For one, its naive to think that perfect peace is attributable, or at least that it should or could start right here and right now this very instant. If, (and thats a big if) it is attainable by humanity, it won’t happen over night and in the meantime understanding should be given to those conflicts which are unavoidable and/or righteous.

    I think half the problem with the entire situation of improper obsession with peace – that is – where the naivete comes from – is the affluence in which we live. Were we a nation without the ease of life and pursuit of leisure that we enjoy, many things would look different through our perspective.

    This is not a justification for any conflict, only a statement about the nature of changing perspective. It affects both just and unjust, right and wrong conflict.

  3. rlh27 said, on July 24, 2008 at 9:30 am

    Love it…

  4. Jen said, on July 25, 2008 at 12:02 pm

    “I think until people can begin to experience peace in their own heart and mind, there seems to be little chance for “world peace.”

    ash…that’s great. and so true. how in the world can “world peace” ever be achieved when we can’t seem to accomplish “home peace” and “inner peace”. when there is conflict within there is conflict without…and in a world that does not even know what true love is, how it feels, or what it looks like it seems hard to even find that hope that the world will ever know peace or love for that. sigh…makes me sad. and that is why WE are the salt to the earth…and the light of world. :)

  5. amoslanka said, on July 25, 2008 at 5:44 pm

    @jen — by “WE” do you mean christians and that it is only Christians who can ultimately bring world peace?

  6. Jen said, on August 3, 2008 at 2:00 pm

    by “we” i do mean Christians…but not that we can bring world peace. i think world peace is unattainable. but i do think that “we” can share the message of true love…and the source of true love…that could bring self peace to many. the concept of world peace…while of course like any, i love the idea…i don’t think it a realistic concept. so i am not suggesting even Christians could bring world peace…but i do think we can bring the peace Christ offers to our families and those around us. before peace there has to be love…there aren’t enough people in the world who genuinely love those around them to bring a peace that would cover the entire world. plus…we already know there’s gonna be a n anti-Christ and a big ol war at some point…pretty sure world peace just ain’t gonna happen. people can still try though…

    by the way…don’t read to much into what i say…there is no “underlying” message “between the lines”. i’m a what you see is what you get kinda person…if i meant more…i would’ve said more.

  7. amoslanka said, on August 3, 2008 at 2:11 pm

    @jen — oh yeah, wasn’t trying to read between the lines, only to clarify what you meant by “we”. I will say though that I think its a mistake to think that Christians have a monopoly on love, righteousness, and truth.


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