Comments on: Ellul, From The Subversion Of Christianity http://blog.amoslanka.com/2008/10/21/ellul-from-the-subversion-of-christianity/ Mon, 08 Mar 2010 02:00:25 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Dion http://blog.amoslanka.com/2008/10/21/ellul-from-the-subversion-of-christianity/#comment-1254 Dion Mon, 03 Nov 2008 08:50:51 +0000 http://amoslanka.wordpress.com/?p=1193#comment-1254 In a world straightjacketed by morality, the radical anti-morality of Christ is bound to offend everyone; love doesn't wear the uniform of judgement. The only hope for the West is too realize who the real enemy is; my hatred of Christ is the regrettable but necessary dawn of a more honest, and therefore more hopeful, appraisal of him. Who in our world can endure the shattering of hierarchy initiated by unconditional love?? In a world straightjacketed by morality, the radical anti-morality of Christ is bound to offend everyone; love doesn’t wear the uniform of judgement.

The only hope for the West is too realize who the real enemy is;
my hatred of Christ is the regrettable but necessary dawn of a more honest, and therefore more hopeful, appraisal of him.

Who in our world can endure the shattering of hierarchy initiated by unconditional love??

]]> By: chris (subversive church) http://blog.amoslanka.com/2008/10/21/ellul-from-the-subversion-of-christianity/#comment-1191 chris (subversive church) Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:23:49 +0000 http://amoslanka.wordpress.com/?p=1193#comment-1191 I like where you are going with this!!! We always seem to be on the same page, often traveling at the same pace! It's very exciting to me. One thing that Mike and I realized in our discussion, is that Jesus fulfilled the law, but not necessarily the laws of Moses (as all 630+ Jewish laws are called). He fulfilled the only two real laws there are "Love your God and Love your neighbor". As you adhere to those laws, everything stems from that. Christianity today has made a system of authority with a rule to live by or be judged. Authority decides what the law is. If we live by the two interconnected laws that Jesus lived by, we restrict our selves by guaging everything we do against our love for God and love for others. It becomes both personal and communal, but not authoritative. Keep doing what you're doing man! I like where you are going with this!!! We always seem to be on the same page, often traveling at the same pace! It’s very exciting to me. One thing that Mike and I realized in our discussion, is that Jesus fulfilled the law, but not necessarily the laws of Moses (as all 630+ Jewish laws are called). He fulfilled the only two real laws there are “Love your God and Love your neighbor”. As you adhere to those laws, everything stems from that. Christianity today has made a system of authority with a rule to live by or be judged. Authority decides what the law is. If we live by the two interconnected laws that Jesus lived by, we restrict our selves by guaging everything we do against our love for God and love for others. It becomes both personal and communal, but not authoritative. Keep doing what you’re doing man!

]]> By: Brittany http://blog.amoslanka.com/2008/10/21/ellul-from-the-subversion-of-christianity/#comment-1181 Brittany Wed, 22 Oct 2008 14:55:28 +0000 http://amoslanka.wordpress.com/?p=1193#comment-1181 I went through a Keierkegaard stage- I think I spent one whole Chicago winter holed up, reading his stuff, feeling quite existential. Things that resonated: The notion that an infinite God transforms into a finite Jesus has always been paradoxal to me, and possiblya threat to the reasonable part of the mind. Also, abandoning reason for faith is a hard pill to swallow. If Christianity was stripped bare, boiled down to it's most basic and true parts what would it look like? I went through a Keierkegaard stage- I think I spent one whole Chicago winter holed up, reading his stuff, feeling quite existential. Things that resonated: The notion that an infinite God transforms into a finite Jesus has always been paradoxal to me, and possiblya threat to the reasonable part of the mind. Also, abandoning reason for faith is a hard pill to swallow.
If Christianity was stripped bare, boiled down to it’s most basic and true parts what would it look like?

]]> By: david http://blog.amoslanka.com/2008/10/21/ellul-from-the-subversion-of-christianity/#comment-1180 david Wed, 22 Oct 2008 05:26:20 +0000 http://amoslanka.wordpress.com/?p=1193#comment-1180 wow, so very technical and intelligent sounding, I can hardly process it all. I tend to lean toward the master's summary... Matthew 22:36-39 "Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?" Jesus replied: " 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'... wow, so very technical and intelligent sounding, I can hardly process it all. I tend to lean toward the master’s summary…

Matthew 22:36-39

“Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?” Jesus replied: ” ‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’…

]]> By: yazz http://blog.amoslanka.com/2008/10/21/ellul-from-the-subversion-of-christianity/#comment-1178 yazz Wed, 22 Oct 2008 00:51:49 +0000 http://amoslanka.wordpress.com/?p=1193#comment-1178 once again: love kierkegaard. once again: love kierkegaard.

]]> By: bmccoy http://blog.amoslanka.com/2008/10/21/ellul-from-the-subversion-of-christianity/#comment-1175 bmccoy Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:54:52 +0000 http://amoslanka.wordpress.com/?p=1193#comment-1175 wow. wow.

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